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- From: ceraldi@ibm.net
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech
- Subject: Re: Why Amiga sucks and why it does't
- Date: 19 Jan 1996 13:39:19 GMT
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- In <1747.6590T2T2932@garlic.com>, kbull@garlic.com (Greg Thomson) writes:
-
- >By the way Windows 95 is not that bad. Windows NT is very good. Networking on
- >PC's is very nice. Netscape is very fast in Windows 95 and Windows NT. Oh,
- >and lets see
- >
- >1. Pentium mother board with 2 EIDE controllers, 2 serial, 2 parelel,
- > 256K cache, upgradable for pipeline cache: $168
- >2. Pipline cache 8ns: $45
- >3. Segate EIDE 1.08 G HD: $208 (single platter, 10.5 ms, 256K)
- >4. Dimond 3D Edge PCI video/sound card with 2 megs DRAM: $300
- >5. Mini tower case: $33
- >6. 16 megs of ram 60 ns: $408
- >7. Pentium 120: $300
- >8. 3.5 Floppy: $25
- >9. 6x CD Rom: $148
- >
- >Total (withought a monitor and a modem): $1627 plus tax
- >
- >If you think this price is too good to be true look in the latest issue
- >of Microtimes and shop around a little. I will keep my A1200 for a while
- >but my next computer will not be an Amiga unless AT keeps all of its
- >promisses and lowers the price to match PCs.
-
- Although networking is a must for business, for the home,
- it is just coolness points. It is true that 95 is good enough (to replace 3.11),
- and that NT is good (for those with $3000 and who do not want to run any
- of the 16 bit Windows apps they have or games that are currently available).
- The Amiga definately needs a good browser -- no argument there! However,
- if people expect Amiga to match the prices that you quote above, then the Amiga
- is finished. There is no way in the world, AT can accomplish what you expect
- as far as pricing is concerned.
- Mac users for years have paid more to get a bit less,
- but to get a machine that they want to work on. Apple is licensing their technology
- because that is what is needed to lower the costs of working on a Mac system. It may
- not work for them, but they are trying. Many of the parts you state above are made in
- China and other Asian countries by hundreds if not thousands of companies. A motherboard
- for $170? A good Pentium name-brand motherboard made in the US can cost up to $500.
- A generic minitower case? Which name brand computer manufacturer you know uses a generic
- case? 6X Cdrom -- I'd bet it is not a name brand either.
- Amigas have always and will always
- cost a lot of money for a decent system. When one company is making the parts and is the sole
- manufacturer of the computers, it costs a great deal of money to manufacture per unit. Maybe
- It is not that they company is trying to rip the consumer off. It is true that Commodore
- when they were big and strong could have produced lower costs than they did, but
- to expect AT to come in and meet those prices you quote? It is impossible from a manufacturing perspective.
- Yes, they can reduce the cost by making a design that uses parts that conform to the standards ie. PCI
- so that our video cards don't cost $700 compared to $300-$400, but if you want an Amiga that tries to
- break new ground like in the past, you'll have to pay for it.
-
- James.
-